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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on raises taxes, right? if you look at the polls. 60% of people support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000 a year. how much of a problem is it, david, if the republicans you know, tom coburn said he does not want to raise that tax number. >> the pr
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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they could have left it today with secretary clinton's statement. i think this was a very deliberate point that the president was making. he is fully engaged in this issue. clearly the president's been briefed, he's talking to his cabinet. we should assume that the united states military has continued the operations on the table fully prepared ready to go. there has been talk about the chemical weapons of syria for months, the military has had time to prepare. the administration has been clear, a military option is not where they want to have to go but i think the president's statement makes the point that they will go there if they have to, and i think that's the right message to send. we cannot permit syria to think using their chemical weapons and sarin gas stockpiles is an option for them. >> you make the important point that when the president gets involved, that's a calculated decision and every word he says is carefully reviewed. he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosec
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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the
secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn,...
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bill clinton along with others says if there's a movie made about hillary clinton, meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disabilities, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> that was a good line. kerry has been careful to stay clear of the public speculation about whom the president will actually pick to replace hillary clinton. >>> also, arizona governor jan brewer, she's a heavyweight, in a comment about global warming. she doesn't think it's manmade, but her own explanation for climate change is rather lacking. here is what she told a local reporter. >> everybody has an opinion on it, you know, and i probably don't believe it's manmade. i believe that, you know, weather and certain elements are controlled maybe by differen
bill clinton along with others says if there's a movie made about hillary clinton, meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disabilities, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr....
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buick as well as former clinton special counsel davis. the president campaigns on $800 billion in new taxes. he now wants 1.6 trillion. he wants twice the amount, lanny. he wants a blank check and congress to give up its authority as it relates to money and say no, no, let me raise the debt ceiling any time i want. he wants 150 billion in new stimulus but no entitlement cuts at all, no spending cuts at all. now that sounds to me like somebody that's not serious. >> i don't know where to begin to correct some of what you just said, but let me at least start with ronald ra reagan. >> tell me where i'm wrong. >> you're certainly wrong that he didn't campaign to cut 98% of the american people's taxes with the upper 2% paying. he won the election based on that explicit proposal. >> and the house from their election -- the house won their election to stop him. the house also won, lanny. >> 535 congressional districts, most of which have little opposition, exain capture be cao voting for president. >> they did not vote to give him a rubber stamp
buick as well as former clinton special counsel davis. the president campaigns on $800 billion in new taxes. he now wants 1.6 trillion. he wants twice the amount, lanny. he wants a blank check and congress to give up its authority as it relates to money and say no, no, let me raise the debt ceiling any time i want. he wants 150 billion in new stimulus but no entitlement cuts at all, no spending cuts at all. now that sounds to me like somebody that's not serious. >> i don't know where to...
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that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of business. he wanted to be in a longer- term business. he did not make enough concessions to the day-by-day noise of washington. >> i call this his pregame aptitude. he plays the game before the players take the field. the trick is when you get to be president. it can create a kind of reticence, a step back quality that you missed. all those variables change. >> i think he is learning. i altered his landscape. as i do that, i am ahead of the pack. >> you're talking about striving for greatness. he is going to need to strive for greatness and reorganize
that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of...
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in fact from kennedy to reagan to clinton to w. bush lower tax rates frequently increased tax revenues, particularly at the upper end of the income stream. so here now to discuss this we have cnbc contributor keith boykin a former clinton white house aide and forbes media chairman steve forbes author of freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government is not. love that. hey steve and keith. keith boykin i'll give you a little supply side. you'll hate this. this couples from the irs. the irs is going to use the bush cut, the dreaded bush tax cuts. the richest 1% paid $84 billion inflation adjusted dollars more between 2000 and 2007. that's a rise of 23%. in other words, their tax rates went down. and their tax revenues went up. now, isn't mr. obama making a mistake? >> well, the rich are paying more in taxes because the rich are disproportionately receiving most of the income in this country. the reality, larry, is that in my lifetime we've actually only raised income tax rates three times. once in 1969 to pay for th
in fact from kennedy to reagan to clinton to w. bush lower tax rates frequently increased tax revenues, particularly at the upper end of the income stream. so here now to discuss this we have cnbc contributor keith boykin a former clinton white house aide and forbes media chairman steve forbes author of freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government is not. love that. hey steve and keith. keith boykin i'll give you a little supply side. you'll hate this. this couples from the...
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clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states in american history. >> there doesn't seem to be any democrats that could come close to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for t"the daily beas beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the spe
clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states...
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. >>> high-profile candidates mayor michael bloomberg wanted hillary clinton to succeed him. bloomberg encouraged the secretary of state to >>> cloudy skies this morning. a beautiful sunrise outside from our mount vaca cam. right now most of the bay area dry although we are starting to see scattered showers in the north bay. that's what we'll see on and off today not a whole lot of rain just a few light showers wet at times in the area. temperatures this afternoon mainly into the 60s. the main rain event coming overnight tonight into tomorrow morning. showers through wednesday, drying out on thursday and friday. >>> football is a violent sport, adding guns to the mix does not help. this morning, john miller looks at the tragic case of jovan belcher and why many inside the nfl are looking at the culture of guns in pro sports. >>> and red light cameras bring in millions of dollars in tickets for cities and towns across the country. but now drivers are fighting back. filing a massive lawsuit claiming those stoplights don't give them a fair chance. >> if you're timing them too sh
. >>> high-profile candidates mayor michael bloomberg wanted hillary clinton to succeed him. bloomberg encouraged the secretary of state to >>> cloudy skies this morning. a beautiful sunrise outside from our mount vaca cam. right now most of the bay area dry although we are starting to see scattered showers in the north bay. that's what we'll see on and off today not a whole lot of rain just a few light showers wet at times in the area. temperatures this afternoon mainly into...
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rates are relatively low historically, so the idea you raise them back to what people considered in the clinton era a reasonable rate is just a reasonable thing to do. it's not outrageous. really defaulting on the fact that tax rates have to go down, ultimately it falls on deaf ears. nobody likes to pay taxes, but we got to close the gap somehow. >> sure. could not agree with you more on that last point. if he we go back to the sort of origins of the self-inflicted fiscal whatever it is, you know, this all came out basically of the debt ceiling crisis of 2011 where republicans said, we are not going to do what we've done repeatedly for the past 30 years and just automatically raise the debt ceiling. we're going to hold the country hostage over that. one thing we keep hearing over and over is markets and businesses hate uncertainty. bruce bar let put this debt limit debate into context better than i could today. he wrote the debt limit is nuts and serves no useful purpose to allow members of congress to vote for vast cuts in taxation and increases in spending and telling the truzary it's not per
rates are relatively low historically, so the idea you raise them back to what people considered in the clinton era a reasonable rate is just a reasonable thing to do. it's not outrageous. really defaulting on the fact that tax rates have to go down, ultimately it falls on deaf ears. nobody likes to pay taxes, but we got to close the gap somehow. >> sure. could not agree with you more on that last point. if he we go back to the sort of origins of the self-inflicted fiscal whatever it is,...
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new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world stage here. why would i go and become mayor of new york city? >> i mean, everything i've read about sect clinton suggests that she's looking forward to a break at the end of this year. i don't think running for mayor is very conducive to that. it's not my idea of a relaxing time but i may be wrong. >> people are joking that mayor bloomberg looks tired. it's a big job. but the one thing she's been consistent about, she needs to sleep a little. great to see you. jim, thank you as well. >>> meantime, the u.s. navy is denying iran's claim that it has captured an unmanned drone. they say that none are
new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world...
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kerry are considered high on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest advisers. she was his principal foreign policy adviser during his first campaign and helped shape his world view. they have a similar world view. all of this signifies susan rice would be influential when she goes to speak to diplomats around the world and world leaders and also in formulating foreign policy, which is very good for the state department. on the downside, you see what's happening with the benghazi affair. she's likely to have a bruising confirmation process. some republican senators said they might hold up her nomination. that could drag out a while. john kerry, on the other hand, would b
kerry are considered high on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest...
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the 1990s bill clinton, newt gingrich, welfare reform, a balanced budget. confidence in our government to work together. since then we lost confidence in our government to do absolutely anything. we have left our children a $16 trillion debt. we have been in a war for 11 years. and nobody is feeling good about the future of america. look at your last couple interviews about how people feel about taxes. we dropped to number 16. can we get back to number one? yes, we can, but it takes leadership. megyn: how well the government is performing is some of the criteria. your material well being. how secure people feel in their community. quality of community life and the quality of gender equality in the country. over there in switzerland number one, apparently they do have a lot of freedom. they just voted down a smoking ban but voted in favor of drive-in sex boxes. who is conducting the survey? >> i understand where you are going. who is conducting the survey. i was in zurich this summer. i don't remember all of that. but it's how people feel. do they feel good
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but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> all right. so everyone want to know if michelle obama would follow into the political for she has said that she's not interested in politics but it hasn't stopped people from asking that question. >> no, it doesn't. >> when she appeared at the democratic convention in september, i think people were reminded of how smart and engaging she is and that started the chatter of, what if she ran for public office given that she's or the of able to galvanize people with her speech, her smile, with her sort of -- she's so passionate about everything that she talks about, all of her initiatives. she really pushes very hard for. i think a the lo of people are wondering, even though she doesn't want to be a politician, what kind of role would she have in public after her husband got out of office. i don't think she'll run for office but i think she'll have a very strong presence once his term is up. >> samuel l. jackson has said, michelle
but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> all right. so everyone want to know if michelle obama would follow into the political for she has said that she's not interested in politics but it hasn't stopped people from asking that question. >> no, it doesn't. >> when she appeared at the democratic convention in september, i think people were reminded of how...
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did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so ou
did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go...
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>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that well-earned rest is only going to be a prelude to something else down the road and not -- >> we'll give her a little time to rest and then i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, congresswoman. >> and coming up next, why won't the president sit down with john boehner? more from that new interview with president obama, next. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request sou
>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that...
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the converse happened when president clinton lowered the capital-gains tax rate from 28 to 20%. we had doubling of income. the government did from capital gains. so it works on both sides. if investment capital begins to dry up. more tend to get less of it. where swill it go. where will all the investment income go. >> it will stay on the sidelines or disappear. financial mark gets go down aa well as up. that is what we're experiencing now. capital is on strike. much capital is not being created. we see it in western europe. we see it in japan. would apply the same poison here. real people are just debating. how much more burden would we put on already weak economy? david: steve, will republicans cave on the issue of tax rate increases. will they agree with the president and his folks to raise ttx rates? >> the rank-and-file that talk to want to hold fast on that and say, no we're not going to do it. you want to push the economy off the cliff, you're the chief executive. you're supposed to be bringing people together. and put, throw the ball back in his court. david: you think n
the converse happened when president clinton lowered the capital-gains tax rate from 28 to 20%. we had doubling of income. the government did from capital gains. so it works on both sides. if investment capital begins to dry up. more tend to get less of it. where swill it go. where will all the investment income go. >> it will stay on the sidelines or disappear. financial mark gets go down aa well as up. that is what we're experiencing now. capital is on strike. much capital is not being...
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members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that old
members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for...
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in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes by 3.6% doesn't seem to hold water. we're in a different economy now. there aren't really mathematical formulas you can use to apply to it. it all depends on growth rates and growth rates often depend on confidence in the economy. so there are a few variables here that you can't account for. >> ali velshi, thank you. >> my pleasure. >>> internet security guru john mcafee in hiding wanted for questioning in belize in the death of his neighbor. martin savidge got the first on-camera interview with mcafee since he went on the run. an interview almost as bizarre
in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes...
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and what clinton could do in the future, i don't know. i don't know why obama is so insistent on higher tax rates except it fits his rhetoric. stuart: at the end of the day, i think that the republicans will actually submit on the issue of higher tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000 and everyone agrees those should be put through and then put through another bill that extends the tax cuts on those $250,000 and above and let the democrats take ownership because you know, they're going to be held responsible for the economic performance of 2013 and come 2014, you can actually get a political change that might make a difference. stuart: we'll wait and see on that one. art laffer, always a pleasure. >> bye now. stuart: the republicans submit their fiscal cliff solution. now, that plan put out by speaker boehner, includes 800 billion doll
and what clinton could do in the future, i don't know. i don't know why obama is so insistent on higher tax rates except it fits his rhetoric. stuart: at the end of the day, i think that the republicans will actually submit on the issue of higher tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000...
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>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3% negative growth for two quarters and we'll go back with a slightly less than 2% growth rate for the entire. we're not going to get out of this without pain. anybody when thinks we'll get through the deficit problem without having to do some sacrificing is wrong. what this does in my view as a democrat is it distributes the burden of the pain fairly, that is, we go back to the clinton tax rates for everybody, not just for rich folks. and we had a good economy under bill clinton. we go back -- we get -- cuts in defense spending which we know is higher than it
>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3%...
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. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue magazine is one of several people president obama is considering for the ambassador post to the united kingdom or france. wintour is a u.s. citizen, but was born in the united kingdom. she is one of the president's biggest fund-raisers. >>> federal judge temporarily blocks federal law, banning the use of conversion therapy. his ruling applies to only three providers who want the law overturned. the therapy is aimed at helping change a minor sexual orientation from gay to straight. >>> 13 people dead, 32 wounded. now the judge in the case has been removed. u.s. court of appeals for the armed services says the judge showed b
. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue...
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it's a plan that was partially taken from the former chief of staff for president bill clinton, one that the republicans put out yesterday, and it's one that democrats roundly rejected. >> republicans' plan, on the other hand, is more of the same. not only does it balance the budget on the backs of the middle class, but voids the promise to seniors with cuts to social security and medicare all to pay for handouts to the rich. at least we know where they stand. >> republicans are willing to make sure we don't go over the cliff, but, at the same time, don't harm the economy. what has to happen, the president needs to show leadership, sit in the room, stay here, get it done. that's why there was a proposal that's reasonable, meets his criteria. >> republicans say they have put a bipartisan plan forward. it's up to the white house to come back with their next proposal. the white house and democrats are saying republicans need to be willing to raise tax rates on families earning more than $250,000 a year as a prerequisite before talking about any of these structural changes that republicans w
it's a plan that was partially taken from the former chief of staff for president bill clinton, one that the republicans put out yesterday, and it's one that democrats roundly rejected. >> republicans' plan, on the other hand, is more of the same. not only does it balance the budget on the backs of the middle class, but voids the promise to seniors with cuts to social security and medicare all to pay for handouts to the rich. at least we know where they stand. >> republicans are...
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you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and had and to send a message to the world, just as the president said, if you mess with the united states there are serious and potentially deadly consequences for doing so. bill: i just want to add this. about a month ago the deputy interior minister said the investigation was going well. about three weeks ago the ministry spokesman said the results would come soon. i put those in quotes because we are still waiting on that. steven hayes, thank you out of washington. martha: remember the homeless man whose picture went viral on the internet when a new york city po
you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and...
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i grew up under bill clinton who always said the best politics is good governing and i think we need to see more focus on solving problems and getting things done in washington than playing politics. i think to recognize there's been real progress made, right the border is safer today, the immigration system is better, the two parties worked together to do that over the last few years. there are still some meaningful things that need to get done. the d.r.e.a.m. act, we have to fix the low-end and high-end visa system. the mexicans are going to do a whole boar border system. i think there will be a lot of room to work together next year to get something meaningful done. if the republicans are earnest and play it straight i think they'll get a lot of credit for working with the democrats to fix the broken immigration system and making it better. jon: getting something meaningful done, it seems like a longtime since that's happened in washington. we'll look forward to it. simon rosenberg. kate obenshane thank you much. jenna: the nato alliance warning the assad regime in syria against u
i grew up under bill clinton who always said the best politics is good governing and i think we need to see more focus on solving problems and getting things done in washington than playing politics. i think to recognize there's been real progress made, right the border is safer today, the immigration system is better, the two parties worked together to do that over the last few years. there are still some meaningful things that need to get done. the d.r.e.a.m. act, we have to fix the low-end...
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going back to the clinton era rate of 39% -- >> is it about fairness? or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only political constituencies that will fight tooth and claw on every deducti deduction, there are some reasons, fairly good reasons why you would want to think twice. you know, are you going to go after home mortgage deduction at a time when the housing industry is trying to get its feet? are you going to go after the exemption on taxation for health insurance? i mean, that's the biggest one, actually. that's like $250 billion a year. but i don't think anybody wants to dive back into that at this point. so, you know, how else are you going to do it? >> arianna, can i just say that -- a
going back to the clinton era rate of 39% -- >> is it about fairness? or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only...
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. >> new york mayor michael bloomberg reportedly wants hillary clinton to be his successor. several newspapers reporting the mayor called the secretary of state months ago and urged her to run in 2013 and he's convinced she would win. calling her a perfect fit. mrs. clinton reportedly told mayor bloomberg that she's not interested. >>> all right a renewed appeal for the release of an american prisoner in cuba. 63-year-old alan gross is beginning his fourth year of a 15-year sentence on the island. the u.s. state department issued a new statement calling for his release. gross says he was there in an effort to connect cuba's small jewish community to the internet. the cuban authorities said he was using imported sensitive communications equipment to connect dissidents. >>> two virginia tech football players have been suspended from the team. they're charged with manufacturing and detonating an explosive device. police say 20-year-old joshua trimble and 19-year-old brian roadie were arrested sunday after a small explosion near an apartment building. no one was hurt. an attorne
. >> new york mayor michael bloomberg reportedly wants hillary clinton to be his successor. several newspapers reporting the mayor called the secretary of state months ago and urged her to run in 2013 and he's convinced she would win. calling her a perfect fit. mrs. clinton reportedly told mayor bloomberg that she's not interested. >>> all right a renewed appeal for the release of an american prisoner in cuba. 63-year-old alan gross is beginning his fourth year of a 15-year...
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. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate. >> exactly. >> new york senate years ago. >> you would imagine hillary clinton is one of the superstars in politics, and she has certain star power. you would think if she comes back into politics at this point -- they say she is not -- she would want a national office compared to a big, big job like mayor of new york city. if she gets in the game, she's going for the top again. the white house, not here in new york. >> what is mayor bloomberg going to do, steps down december 31st of 2013. >> count his money, i guess. >>> speaking of money, mitt romney is making a career move of sorts. he's rejoining the board of di
. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate....